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Star Wars Women: the stats

29/5/2018

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A Leia reaction shot in A New Hope

I have FINALLY ranked all of #StarWars based on screen time for women. This is now canon. Don't @ me.

43% Last Jedi
37% Force Awakens
35% Rogue One
23% Return of the Jedi
22% Empire Strikes Back
20% Phantom Menace
18% Attack of the Clones
17% Revenge of the Sith
15% A New Hope

— Becca Harrison (@BeccaEHarrison) May 28, 2018
​Seeing as my list of Star Wars films has spread wider than I anticipated (at least it hasn't broken the internet quite as badly as the Princess-Leia-has-a-PhD tweet...), and I’ve been asked lots of questions about methodology, here’s a brief overview of how I arrived at these figures. As with all research, it's been labour intensive and I've had to make some tricky and imperfect decisions, especially as I'm trying to create quantitative data from qualitative. Here's the logic behind it, which forms just one aspect of my research project. 
 
First off, I want to make clear that these are based on rough cuts of the remastered original trilogy, and prequels, sequels and spin-offs (i.e. what Disney now call ‘canon’ – sorry, no Holiday Special or ewok movies). I’ve edited the men out of the films as much as possible (more on this in a moment) but there are still sequences that need refining and further edits, so, if anything, the percentages of women’s screen time will likely go down as I trim excess male dialogue and reaction shots for a final cut.
 
In my definition of ‘screen time’ for women I’ve tried to be as consistent as possible, although this is often challenging. I’ve only counted women with speaking parts because having the ability to say something and contribute to the story, and not serving as a visual object, is important. However, if a woman with a speaking part is onscreen and not speaking, and neither is a man, I’ve kept the footage. Consequently, you get a lot of reaction shots of Leia or Jyn not doing much but being the only character in the frame. When men are speaking and a woman is onscreen, I’ve made a value judgement about whether she’s central to the action (or not) at that moment in the story. Sadly, especially in Padme’s case, she’s quite often just kind of ‘there’. She really does get a rough deal.
 
I have kept in as much footage as possible of planets, establishing shots and landscapes, as well as ships and battles (no, a ship does not count as female because humans have an annoying and sexist habit of gendering vehicles. A ship is a ship and it doesn’t have a gender. One day, let’s hope we all get to be more like ships). Initially I was going to cut a lot of the space dogfights because we know it’s men piloting the X-wings, etc. But by removing men from the rest of the films, it opens up the possibility that when we can’t see inside the vehicles there is a woman, non-binary or gender-neutral pilot. So, these sequences stayed. 
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L3, the feminist, female-programmed droid in Solo
​I’ve also been asked a lot about droids and aliens. Almost every character in the Star Wars universe is gendered by the franchise. Threepio, Artoo and BB-8 are programmed ‘male.’ L3 is programmed ‘female.’ And, as L3 confirms for us in Solo, droids are sentient – hence droids can have genders (but the computer on the Falcon, which is not sentient, does not).
 
The wampa on Hoth is, apparently, male, so he goes in my cut. Mynocks, which are parasites and reproduce by splitting in two, could be gender neutral, so they stay. When animals appear in herds or packs containing two genders (for example, porgs and vulptex) I’ve left them in because there are limited hours in the day, life is short, and no, even I’m not nerdy enough to sit and work out which porgs have male or female eye-feathers. When in doubt about droids or aliens, I’ve referred to the Star Wars site, Wookieepedia, interviews with filmmakers, and evidence in the text such as gendered pronouns.
 
There are further things to be said about the quality of women’s representation in the films, which I’m addressing in an audiovideo essay and my book. For a start, while women’s screen time improves as the number of women’s speaking parts goes up, the films don’t necessarily get better over time—see the prequels—and even the sequels and spin-offs barely pass the Bechdel test because women characters often inhabit the screen with men. The notion that women can have meaningful conversations with one another about something other than male characters is most apparent in The Last Jedi… but you can still count these exchanges on one hand.
 
In future, I’ll be working on stats about the screen time for women of colour (my sense is that only the two sequels and Solo will produce significant results, and even these will be awfully low). My hope is that by telling you the odds of women being onscreen in Star Wars, we can keep having useful conversations about identity and representation in the franchise. 
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Mike K
31/5/2018 19:23:24

This is a great idea and I fully support it in concept, however I have to question your numbers. What caught my attention was your number for The Last Jedi - only 43%? Really? There are 3 main storylines in this movie, and all 3 involved women. Obviously there's Rey, then there's Finn and Rose, and finally there's Poe/Leia/Holdo (plus various other women) running away from the First Order in space. It's hard to think of a scene in The Last Jedi where a woman with a speaking role is NOT present. Are you sure about this one?

Your other numbers ring fairly true, but I'm having a hard time swallowing this for The Last Jedi (and possibly Rogue One, since Felicity Jones is in nearly every scene?).

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Josh
31/5/2018 22:48:08

Mike, I don't think the idea is just to count up how many scenes have a woman in them somewhere, but how many are DRIVEN by the woman/women in the scene.

I found the Rogue One stat surprising (the only one that did tbh), but upon reflection it makes sense -- Jyn may be the main character (a dubious claim anyway), but in many scenes she's one among many characters, and holy crap but she doesn't talk very much. Cassian drives a lot of the movie, and there are loads of scenes (especially in the back third of the movie) where Jyn isn't present *AT ALL*.

Fascinating.

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Eric
1/6/2018 00:48:08

I find it absolutely fascinating that A New Hope is so far down the list. I suppose it is because Carrie Fisher as Leia is so engaging that it *feels* like more. This is really interesting work - thank you!

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john
1/6/2018 13:20:12

I question something here, that (but the computer on the Falcon, which is not sentient, does not)

all but state the falcon has a droid brain. furthermore there was C3PO line “Sir, I don’t know where your ship learned to communicate, but it has the most peculiar dialect.” which implies a personality. and we now know what that personality WAS!! i would at least bump the number up abit due to L3-37 reveal but I understand if you don't.

Also you left out star wars the clone war movie, which introduce Ahsoka tahno, which i find insulting since that IS consider canon.

Btw... for your future review, and not to be a nitpicker, but could you not include the original.

Granted the original trilogy were film in the late 70-early eighties but still not exactly famous for having a diverse cast back then, i honestly be surprise if the number were anything but zero. the only ones with the high numbers that would count would be the prequel trilogy, sequel trilogy. and of course the two stand alone films.

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Brenda
1/6/2018 14:07:20

You forgot Star Wars: The Clone wars (The movie, not the tv series)

Also since their only Breha organa (Who is spanish filipino), some of the delegation of 2000, that rogue one senator. the only one with proper screen time would be the han solo movie and the last jedi with a smidgen of Revenge of the sith.

Heck i would exclude the original trilogy just to spare time (Not alot of diversity in the late 70 films).

on the plus side their alot more woman of color in the star wars expanded universe (Doctor aphra and Rae Sloane anyone)?

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Aidan
4/6/2018 11:09:31

As in the methodology, establishing shots of ships and planets were included in the ‘woman’s cut’. It may be interesting to cut these out, including the ambiguous dogfight scenes, and do a similar cut for the male characters to compare. This may result in an even larger gender gap in screen time (and would also be a lot of work!). But yeah this stuff is super interesting!

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Gabriel Marsh link
3/1/2021 05:25:24

This is a great poost

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Martin Todd link
4/7/2024 23:43:36

Hi greatt reading your blog

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